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Hi All,

WATBlog is heading to barcamp mumbai which is happening today and tomorrow at IIT Bombay. We shall see if we can live blog and the datacard, wifi and power connection supports us (so much for technology reliability.. phew!). We shall also be taking a few videos which may land up on WATShow. But if you are looking for live updates you should follow our twitter feed

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Startup Review: SnappyFingers.com - A Search Engine For QnA/Faq’s

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Its a saturday and though there is no Startup Saturday happening in Mumbai today but that doesn’t stop us from covering an interesting bangalore based startup. The startup we are taking about is Snappyfingers.com
which is a Question and Answer search engine.

snappy fingers

About SnappyFIngers

Snappyfingers crawls and indexes FAQs spread across the Internet, and provides search results in a  Question/Answer format.

The site is in beta and Founder Chirayu Patel informed us that it currently has a database of 3 million questions. He aslo stated that their crawlers are working hard and they plan to increase the number of questions aggressively in the coming months.

WATBlog’s Take

Concerns - We think the concept is interesting but what might be an issue is the credibility of the source of these answers which are being aggregated from the web. But besides for that this seems like an interesting tool to say the least.

Why we think it rocks! - Personally we found great use for this to teach anyone about anything general (Not specific) and related stuff they are looking for and worked much better than google and wikipedia.

Dont believe me? Well lets take for example I dont understand what liquidation of a company is?

I searched the keyword “liquidation” across google, wikipedia and snappy fingers.

Check screenshots of the three sites below:

google screenshot

Google

wikipedia

Wikipedia

snappyfingers

Snappyfingers

As you can see from the screenshots above snappy brings out the most relevant results when it comes to answers while google gives me websites which contain liquidation as a keyword and wikipedia gives me an extended definition.

Conclusion: On the whole the limitation for snappy fingers is that it still is good only for basic questions once someone goes specific like we tried searching a solution for a specific wordpress error and there was no result but google gave me those results. So on the whole the challenge is how much more data snappyfingers can crawl and index as we think the way they represent the data might be liked by the average and below average internet user who is usually looking for answers. (Look at the way yahoo answers and rediff answers have gained traction in India)

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Exclusive Detailed Interview With Rajesh Jain Founder Netcore On Google Sms Channels & The Sms Opportunity

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rajesh jainWe caught up with Rajesh Jain, Founder of Netcore which own MYToday the group sms solution provider which has now google to compete with which has recently launched google sms channels.

We quizzed Rajesh on Google, how he plans to compete with them, cost of running mytoday and his strategy to acquire advertisers for his sms service. Check out the interview below.

Q) Google has launched sms channels what are your initial thoughts? Do you feel threatened?

SMS is being percieved as the critical medium for mobile subscribers, something we had initiated two years ago. We pioneered permission-based services, and others are realising the power now. Mobile advertising will grow. The mobile subscriber base will be 500 million in two years; it is a big opportunity, more players are welcome. Where is the need to be threatened! In fact it is about growing the opportunity.

When one is first in a market, there is bound to be competition sooner or later. In fact, in the coming months, I expect many more companies to enter this space. In the Internet too, IndiaWorld was the first portal (which I had launched in March 1995), and in the subsequent years we had various players enter the market. Over the subsequent years, many dropped out. IndiaWorld thrived, consolidated its market leadership position, and won.

So, a launch of a product by itself in no way guarantees its success - even for us, there are many things that have not worked in the past two years. What is needed to win long-term is a combination of multiple things: vision, understanding consumer needs deeply, strong focus, constant innovation, money and an ability to invest for the long-term, and an organisation completely aligned to the mission (which in our case is to “be the Genie that makes the Mobile Phone into a Magic Lamp” for people), and of course, some luck!

There are nearly 4 million MyToday subscribers with 11+ million subscriptions today for whom the service has become a habit with its excellent content and timely delivery. This is supported by a technology platform that can prioritise and customise each of the 12 million SMSes that we send out daily. And this is just the start. Competition helps bring out the best in all who are there in the marketplace hastening the pace of innovation, adoption and revenue growth. This is therefore good for everyone who has an intention of being a long-term player in the market.

Q) Why would Mytoday continue to do well? Given stiff competition from someone like google?

There is a critical difference in the two services. One is a user-generated and ad hoc content, while we believe in offering editorial content with specific deliverables which help in creating habit in consumption as our recent Nielsen study (covering 5,000 users) had shown. The study says 76% of our subscribers read every message, 84% say they receive the information first from MyToday before any other medium and 98% say they will continue with the service and recommend it to others.

Q) Google already has a huge database of advertisers who would surely be introduced to sms channels once it matures how do you think that would affect mytoday?

It will certainly help grow the advertising pie and then it is upto the individual service to offer best value back to the advertiser. I also think that every medium is different — and the mobile is not going to the same as the Internet. Monetisation streams on the mobile will need to be thought of very differently from the Internet.

Unlike the Internet where the cost of each page view is negligible, there is a significant cost for sending out each SMS. While advertising is going to be one of the most important revenue streams, it alone is definitely not going to be enough to create revenue breakthroughs. This is where one needs to think of the concepts of “VAS Operator” and “Mobile Computing Operator”. I wrote about these on my blog recently:
http://emergic.org/2008/09/14/from-sms-subscriptions-to-vas-operator/
http://emergic.org/2008/09/15/from-vas-operator-to-mobile-computing-operator/

Q) Google has in the west acquired products after their own version’s didn’t work (think google video youtube story) Are you open to acquisition if its Google at a later date?
This is highly speculative and we are right now focussed only on building the service further. We have no such intentions.

Q) How many smses do you send per day and what would be cost of sending those smses?

We send more than 12 million sms per day and because of our innovative initiatives we have been able to tremendously reduce costs.

Q) Lets say you are growing at the same rate for the next 2 years what would be the cost of supporting that growth?

We would have broken even much sooner than the next two years and the service will be returning value back to us.

Q) What is your strategy on the advertiser acquisition front? How do plan to build scale?

The only way to acquire advertisers is to offer innovative solutions based on the native features and strengths of the medium, and return back a good value for their spend. We are building a large sales force in multiple cities across the country as well as working with partners to target specific verticals.

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Google Sms Channels - A Threat Or A Boon For SmsGupshup & MyToday? Their Respective Founder’s Speak Out..

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So Google India launched Google Sms Channels (still in google labs) on 1st of October a product very much like our homegrown Netcore and Webaroo products Mytoday and Smsgupshup. In Short Google Sms Channels allows any one to create an sms group/channel and besides for sending group smses one even add one’s blog feed or any rss feed to it and updates can be sent to the subscribers after they subscribe to the group. The very fact that three prominent bloggers have already blogged about Google sms channels and also created their own channel indicates that the blog feed feature seems to be a great one. You can subscribe to the WATBlog channel here

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Google Sms Channels - Validation OR Threat?

The question to ask here is that if google has entered a segment should it be seen as a validation of the potential of that segment or should it be seen as the threat by the existing players i.e. Webaroo and Netcore?

Well all said and done its google so expect nothing less it terms of product, marketing and free pr (from bloggers like me). While Smsgupshup and Mytoday have been evangelising this space for almost 2 years and have got it to this level google could take less than six month to take this market away? Right? WRONG! because smsgupshup and mytoday would be scaling at the sametime.

Infact I feel this move by google just goes to show that the model has tremendous promise and is worth google’s time and effort to get into this market. Google had done the same when it entered the video market with google video and the app platforms with open social.

One of our products Vs Our Company

What most people forget is that for Google this is just one of its product headed by a team while for Webaroo and Netcore this is their only product (flagship product). Their entire teams are focussed on this opportunity. Also they are ahead of the curve by atleast 18 months in this space. But one may still say its google! Well how can one compete with google? Well Youtube did.. didn’t it? Infact Youtube was so good that inspite of having google video Google had to acquire them.

I think the key is for these companies to be really good at what they do and they are already ahead of the curve by 18 months.

How can Smsgupshup and MYToday Survive?

The Sms groups business suffers from a cost increase with scale problem.which means the more you scale the more money you need. Think of it as the youtube of sms world with more videos to serve youtube had to increase its bandwidth capacity in this case for each outgoing sms smsgupshup needs to pay operators. Both Smsgupshup and Mytoday send about 10-12 millon smses a day and with their growth numbers it wont be late before they send as many smses as one of the big telecom operators do in India. Now thats a huge number of smses and even at 5-10 paisa a sms that they may pay to operators the total spend by these companies could be as high as 15000-20000 dollars a day which amounts to about Half a million dollars a month!

And assuming they continue to scale the same way they did for the last 18 months this would be atleast 1 million dollars a month to just send out the smses!

I think overtime it would be wiser for these companies to just build the network along with the operators i.e. bear the cost of network and get smses sent for free rather than pay for the smses or sell equity to Venture capitalists.

The problem is 1 million dollars a month is pocket change for Google hence from a scale point of view google is best positioned in the market. What both Mytoday and Smsgupshup have going for them is the early mover advantage and they can use that to get ahead of the curve by focussing on user delight by launching more features and adding further numbers to their userbase.

What Do Mytoday and SmsGupshup think of Google SMS Channels?

Here is what Beerud Sheth Co-Founder and President of Webaroo (which owns Smsgupshup) had to say about Google’s entry into Sms groups segment.

“Since its launch nearly 18 months ago, Sms GupShup has been a big believer in the power of sms based mobile communities for consumers to engage with each other and for advertisers to target them effectively. In that time, SMS GupShup has grown to over 10 million users, with numerous advertisers starting to take this medium seriously.

It is natural that large, fast growing spaces will attract large players, which will in turn lead to faster growth in this space. This launch by the largest media company only validates the viability of this emerging medium and should serve as a wake up call to more advertisers to explore and embrace this medium.

At SMS GupShup, our job is to continue doing what has worked well for us so far: obsessive focus on customers (not competitors), rapid product and business innovation as well as evangelizing the medium.”

Do check out our earlier interview with Mr. Beerud Sheth on the opportunity in this market.

rajesh jainHere is what Rajesh Jain Founder of Netcore (Which Owns Mytoday) had to say about Google’s entry into Sms groups segment.

So, a launch of a product by itself in no way guarantees its success - even for us, there are many things that have not worked in the past two years. What is needed to win long-term is a combination of multiple things: vision, understanding consumer needs deeply, strong focus, constant innovation, money and an ability to invest for the long-term, and an organisation completely aligned to the mission (which in our case is to “be the Genie that makes the Mobile Phone into a Magic Lamp” for people), and of course, some luck!

There are nearly 4 million MyToday subscribers with 11+ million subscriptions today for whom the service has become a habit with its excellent content and timely delivery. This is supported by a technology platform that can prioritise and customise each of the 12 million SMSes that we send out daily. And this is just the start. Competition helps bring out the best in all who are there in the marketplace hastening the pace of innovation, adoption and revenue growth. This is therefore good for everyone who has an intention of being a long-term player in the market.

We shall be posting an exclusive detailed interview with Mr.Rajesh Jain next on this Google move Mytoday’s startegy and more. So stay tuned to WATBlog.

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WATBlog Invites You To “Digital Media In The Next Decade” - A WATBlog - ECell IIT Event

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WATBlog in association with ECell IIT Bombay is organising its first panel discussion on “Digital Media in The Next Decade” on 16th October in the evening at 5.30pm in PC Saxena Auditorium, IIT Bombay. The Panel would be followed by a dinner and mixer at IIT.

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We invite all the readers of WATBlog to register asap for this event as there are a limited 200 seats in the house. One can register here ->

About the event

The WATBlog Panel On Digital Media in The Next Decade examines how the new media landscape will unfold over the next few years. Who will be the key agents of change and who will benefit from these shifting market dynamics? Some of the leading lights in Indian Digital Space will highlight the complex roots and dynamics of digital media development as more consumers go digital in India. They will delve on the future of this space as Indian firms go local in content and targetting while global players enter India and traditional players go digital eyeing the sizeable digital consumer.

What do we expect to answer Via WATBlog Panel

* How will Digital Media Transform in the Next Decade?

* What are the new technologies likely to transform the industry?

* Panellists' picks: What will be the next big thing? Where will the most valuable opportunities lie?

* How far will mobile and wireless technologies go?

* Will the challenges encountered so far prepare us for the challenges of the future?

* How can organisations adapt to and capitalise on the digital media developments expected in the next 12 months?

* What is needed? In terms of People, Standards, Technology and Investments?

Who should attend and why?

Digital Media Professionals - All those connected with the digital media space be it web or mobile publishers, digital advertising/marketing enthusiasts or technology analysts/developers should attend this event to get a perspective on the years ahead and also to actively participate in the discussion.

Traditional Company Professionals - Those belonging to traditional media can learn a lot from this panel on what to look forward to from the digital media and how their company can go digital in the years to come.

The discussion will be followed by dinner and mixer at IIT Mumbai.

Details of Event

Date: 16th October

Time:5:30 PM - 8:30 PM

Venue: PC Saxena Auditorium, IIT Mumbai (Powai)

The Discussion: “Digital Media In The Next Decade”

Moderators: Rajiv Dingra Founder & Chief Blogger, WATBlog.com

Panelists:

Surya Mantha - CEO, Web18

Viraj Malik - Managing Director, Percept Knorigin

Ashish Gupta - Managing Director, Helion Venture Capital

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@IAMAI 5th Panel: Mobile Marketing: When are we going to walk the talk?

After session 1,2, 3 and 4 came the last session on mobile marketing. Given than India has over 300 million mobile phones this session should be of prime importance to digital marketer purely because of its reach. This session had some nice insights by the panelists on how to approach mobile marketing.

Rathi  Gangappa National Account Manager, Onmobile stated that consumers are trying to get to content and the advertising agencies and advertisers come in between the content and that is the basic ad serving business. There is immense opportunity in voice based business on mobile. Then there is response based advertising on text media and then wap banner servicing, etc. and finally video advertising with the roll out of 3G hence there are no dearth of ideas.

Hence there is no dearth of ideas but the fear is of consumer backlash to intrusive advertising. Question is how can we use the mobile medium without annoying customer and vice versa for advertisers?
Customer acceptance becomes the vehicle for innovation and therefore customer acceptance is key.


atanu mandal acl wirelessAtanu Mandal President & COO ACL Wireless made the following points:
-    Mobile advertising has been around for sometime with short codes and sms and voice coupons etc.
-    Mobile is better because it is versatile and interactive with highest penetratin and rapidly growing and sharp profiling and ppc model.
Why is mobile advtg in its infancy still?
o    Mainly sms and wap based campaigns.
o    Low level of network integration and high customer access cost.
o    Weak targeting and segmentation.
o    Low customer tolerance for incoming sms and voice.

What will lead to a shift?

Mobile advertising by on deck publishers will lead to a paradigm shift
o    Contextual, Interactive, Multi-modal and Non-intrusive is the future of mobile ads
o    Operator as a media publisher is capable of delivering relevant, targeted and nonintrusive ads

o    Also gratification based opt-in is something the operator is best placed to execute.
o    Operators can provide advertisers customer profiling and targeting mechanisms

Saurabh Vartikar Head Mobile Marketing, Mauj spoke about harnessing opportunities in mobile be its reach, richness, engaging ability, measurability, viral effect, cost effectiveness, targeted audience and  personalization.

He also spoke on the difficulty faced by an advertiser in understanding the media, knowing the 300mn subscribers as well as jargon and measuring cross media effectiveness. He said another problem for advertisers is segmentation of users as according to Admob there are only only 2 lakh is premium subscribers out of 300 mn.
He also pointed out some other concerns like  only 10-15 million usersuse mobile internet and how many respond to advertising? Sms has reached full universe of mobile users but is it hitting my target audience? Users are willing to receive ads but can they be compensated for it?

vishal maheshwariVishal Maheshwari Director - Mobile, Yahoo! India said that Yahoo thinks the mobile is BIG and its here to stay. He stated that mobile is a constant source of information and connection in general media consumption. He also felt that mobile was very personal and the statistic that proves it is the one where lost wallet is reported in 24 hours but a lost mobile is reported in 60 minutes.
He outlined 5 must do’s while pursuing mobile advertising:
o    Keep it simple
o    Embrace the medium
o    Remember the audience
o    Learn and optimize
o    Have realistic expectations

naveen tewariNaveen Tewari, Chief Executive Officer, mKhoj spoke about the following three points:

  1. Largest reach
  2. Precision and Exceptional ROI
  3. Advertiser will flock the medium

Large reach
o    Early days but mobile subscribers is already crossed 300 million
o    Mobile has shown extreme growth in past 9 months
o    Estimated gprs users at 50 -60 million and active at 10 million.
o    Mobile internet has grown at 300-400%
Precision and Exceptional ROI
o    Mobile has reasonable targeting ability
o    Mobile advertising has great ROI
o    Advertiser can also get information about the consumer who interacted wth his ad so that he can make an informed decision
Advertiser will flock to the medium
o    Brand advertisers are typically cautious to sign up for a new medium, but once they do they have stuck on
o    It takes a few trial campaigns to sign up for long term
o    There are specific segments of advertisers for which the medium has started to give consistent value like mobile content players, applications portals, entertainment, automobile segments, youth, handsets and accessories.

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@IAMAI 4th Panel - What Value Do Ad Networks Bring?

After Panel 1,2 and 3 the 4th panel was on “What value do ad networks bring?” And IAMAI had roped in 4 of the India’s ad networks on the podium obviously talking about why one needs to hop onto the ad network platform and how its is more performance driven. For me it would have been interesting if some clients who had used adnetworks would be on the podium as well as it would have given a clearer picture as to which direction do ad networks need to improve. Also most of the speakers spoke of the lower cost of advertising on an ad network while none spoke about any USP besides for that. Nonetheless the panel came us with some very interesting numbers in support of the ad network space.

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anurag guptaAnurag Gupta Managing Director, DGM India gave a good round up on the kind of ad networks that are around.
-    Kinds of networks
o    Representation Network (Rep) – Represent publications in their portfolio
o    Blind (low pricing through bulk buy of remnant inventory) - Advertisers dont know the sites on which they are advertisiing.
o    Targeted -  focus on specific niche

amar goelAmar Goel Founder & Chief Executive Officer, Komli gave some insightful statistics on the long tail of the web.
-    98% visit outside top 20 sites
-    97% outside of top 50 sites (Conclusion - Long tail is sizeable mass)
-    Page views outside top 20 websites is 54% and top 50 is 45%
-    Time spent outside top 20 websites is 59%
Given the statistics above Amar felt that the goal of adnetworks is to target outside top 20 websites i.e. the Long Tail.

He stated that internet is not a small medium and then compared the reach of English newspapers and online users which are both 30 million each. He felt that there was a need to work with the traditional agency to promote the richness, interacivity and measurability.

aditya khannaAditya Khanna - Co founder & Business Head, Tyroo Media spoke about how content and ad sales require different skill sets and thats what ad networks bring in for the innumerable small websites out there who have decent content but little ad sales ability.

He also gave some insights into the Indian adnetwork market.
o    Demand is less than supply
o    5 to 6% of current media spend on ad networks will be going to 15 to 20 percent
o    Ad networks are currently competing with search engine marketers and horizontals
o    As ad networks provide a cheaper/cost effective solution they will have demand during recession as well.
o    Though there are too many ad networks its a sign that there is money in the business. But only top three players will survive in the long run.

Ratish NairRatish Nair CEO of Interactive Avenues stated that ad networks add value by monetizing
unsold inventory which is typically inventory for which advertisers do not pay premium price and hence wont buy from individual sites. In effect ad networks play the role of an aggregator if ad inventory which bring additional revenue to publishers.


Why would advertiser use ad networks?

-    High reach among quality environments
-    ROI based cpa model
-    Total pg in india is 32 bn
-    Top 10 offer 16 .8 bn
-    Top 100 is 20.5 billion which leaves out around 11 billion impressions on the outside of top 100 sites.

He stated that It is not about targeting once but repeat targetting that can bring better results for an advertiser. So even if your audience is on top 10 sites, they would be elsewhere as well and repeat targetting at a lower cost can increase conversions.

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@IAMAI 3rd Panel: How Seriously Should We Take Online Video Ads?

After the 1st session on standards and norms and 2nd session on performance vs branding the third session was centred around video adverising online and whether it needs to be taken seriously. Again most of the speakers came from a video advertising background and hence most of the session was pro video advertising. Would have enjoyed a contrary point of view on the panel. Nonetheless the panelist did make some key points during the session and thats what we are covering in this post.


sumanSuman Srivastava – CEO Euro RSCG who was the moderator of the panel outlined some key concerns for discussion at the start of the panel itself so that the speakers could delve deeper on these concerns.

He questioned “How do we handle..”
1) Bandwidth - Video as everyone knows requires time to load and is quite a strain on your servers. Are there enough broadband users for downloading such stuff?

2) Creativity - What kind of stuff can be done on online video vis a vis television ads.

3) Measurement- How do we measure? Are views enough?

4) Distribution - How we reach out to more users for video viewing?

R rajnishR Rajnish – Director- Ad & Publisher Solutions, Microsoft India answers the concerns by pointing the audience towards the recent big bang theory and its implications towards the internet bandwidth comcerns. He stated that a new technology call grid technology would be coming soon (6-8 months) which would revolutionize internet speeds the world over and users will be able to download Full Disney movies in 5 seconds.

He said that besides for grid technology 3G is here and will be available on phones in a few months and hence videos will be watched on phone as well. Besides for 3G there is also IPTV which he felt will solve the bandwidth issues for web videos.
On the concern about measurement he stated a statistic that Laughter Challenge is seen more on youtube than on Star One but they hardly earn anything out of the online video views and this is where online video ads come in.

naren nachiappanNaren Nachiappan - Managing Director, Jivox stated the following interesting statistics in support of popularity of video online.

1) Video is not tomorrow’s story but a today’s story.

2) No of Video Impressions to surpass no of searches in Q1 2009 Comscore (North America)
3) 80% of onlne video users don't mind watching ads (double click)
4) Youtube is the 6th most trafficked site in India (alexa)
5) 8% of video viewers interact will the video ads (expand/contract)
6) In  click2 play environment one sees 25% CTR post completion of video click.

Surya Mantha – Web 18 CEO stated that Bandwidth is not a tech issue its more of a policy, incentive issue. He felt that even though Broadband hadn't taken off vis a vis mobiles, on the whole in smaller towns/cities people are still watching videos. He questioned the video ad format and asked “How long should a video ad be? 5sec? 8 sec?” He felt there was no answer still as the answer was still evolving.
He then questioned as to what is relevance in context of video? How do you have relevant ads in video? He felt this aspect was also still evolving.
He concluded saying that Online video viewing was a solitary activity and attracted complete focussed attention from a viewer and hence was very effective for advertising.

nautanki.tvSunil Nair Chief Executive Officer & Co-Founder, Nautanki TV claimed that Nautanki.tv does about 10 million video views a day and the Video consumption is happening from smaller towns NOT from metro's. He gave the example of Channel V get gorgeous channel on nautanki which got 1.5 million video views a day
He felt the way to reach out to the advertisers was to partner TV and video content providers who anyways have access to these advertisers.

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@IAMAI Panel 2 - Performance Based Marketing VS Brand Building - “Indian Marketers are still stuck in Clicks”

We were at the IAMAI Digital Marketing Summit and after the first session on Standards and norms we attended the second panel which was on Performance VS Branding. It was clear from the profiles of the panelists that they would push for branding as the required step vs performance as there was no Search engine marketing guru or Adnetwork in the panel.

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But there were still some interesting points highlighted in this second session:

neville taraporewallaNeville Taraporewalla - CEO & Online Media Director, Publicitas Digital shared the example of the US election campaigning and stated that according to a comscore report Mccain and Obama were both campaigning online but the difference between their campaigns was Obama was brand building while Mccain strategy was issue based like a performance based campaign. Obama has apparently built his personal brand within households through this strategy. He felt just like Mccain Indian marketeers are still stuck in clicks.
He felt that the web offers excellent opportunity to build awareness and engagements and he showcased some campaigns to illustrate the same.

kashyap vaddapalliKashyap Vadapalli - Director – Marketing & Operations, eBay India stated the following points.

  • Yes one can build brands online
  • When one has numbers to meet would you invest in branding or transactions .i.e performance is a queston all marketeers ask across mediums.
  • Based on the business goals one takes a short term decision

Kashyap gave a framework which could be used to decide on performance vs branding. The framework is as follows:
o    Where is the product in its life cycle
o    By industry maturity
o    Consumer purchase involvement and the point of consumption

With regards to each point there are many options like
-    Product life cycle – new-in season-end of life- vintage/used
-    Industry maturity – nascent  - growth stage – established
-    Point of consumption - online - offline - home - while travelling

Once a marketer considers the options above then only that he/she decide on branding vs performance.

krishna prasadKrishna Prasad Executive Producer, MSN India stated the following:
-    It's a case of both branding and performance
-    How much does a manager spend on an online campaign and then how much time does he allocate to analyze the best branding options.
-    Where are Prasoon Joshi’s (Creative Guru’s) of online world
-    Even performance goes back and asks whats being communicated in that ad.

upenUpen Roop Rai Director, Times Internet stated the following:
-    Unless we move out of performance the branding money will never come into it
-    What exactly constitutesbranding
o    Any exposure
o    ROI is pure branding success metric
-    Do clicks matter in the world of branding
o    It does for certain objective like awareness  and association but not while focusing on intent  to purchase
o    It is detrimental to judge by clicks because it overlooks branding while drawing conclusion from a sub set of audience who wouldn't be your target
o    Heavy clickers vary a lot from typical internet user and hence clicks might be a wrong way to measure whom you are reaching.

Offline and online partnerships benefit everyone:
-    For media content is everything, offliners give cool content that online hasn’t produced.
-    In promotional space audience is everything.
-    Our audience is hyper connected, they are online and offline so you need a 360 degree approach.
-    Most brands integrate offline and online and improve customer experience
-    Online marketing can make performance of branding measured come true.

vikram sakhujaVikram Sakhuja Chief Operating Officer - South Asia, Group M asked some interesting questions:
-    Is computer a businesss machine or a multimedia gizmo?
-    Is performance only ecommerce/transaction?
-    CPA and CPL are performance metrics while engagement and awareness are brand metrics
-    Why do consumers consume media?

He felt the following needed to be done to change the scenario from performance to branding:
-    Stop lamenting about reach as there are 40 million people who can generate business
-    Start getting competitive with other media
-    Say put x percent of your tv and media campaign on digital and then prove which works better.
-    Lift iamai status and work with industry campaign instead of lving in our own exhaust.
-    Pin point – Where are the advertisers who don't understand digital and lets bring them to such conferences and sky is the limit then.

Though the session was interesting overall it was still one sided i.e. only branding support but no performance based marketing evangelists. Which actually made most of the discussion only pro branding.

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